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Add up - Profits 2008/ Losses 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

The question I have is rather banal. I made a profit from stocks and options transactions that I sold in 2008. I am considering selling securities at a loss this year (I have not done so yet), and I wanted to know if this would be worthwhile from a tax perspective. What is the process in this case? Can the losses be deducted in the tax return for 2008 (or 2009, 2010...), directly or indirectly, and how? Are gains and losses taxed at the same rate (except for the sign)?

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards.

Dipl.BW/SB Ulrich Stiller

Dear client,

Thank you for your inquiry, which I would like to answer based on the information provided and taking into account your efforts as follows:

From 2009 onwards, you must consider the following:

Firstly, you need to distinguish between "old losses and new losses."

OLD LOSSES

These are speculative transactions in which you acquired securities before 1.1.2009 and sold them within the speculation period. Such losses can be offset from 2009 to 2013 inclusive either with speculative gains within the meaning of § 23 EStG (e.g. real estate sales in private assets) or with capital gains within the meaning of § 20 paragraph 2 EStG.

NEW LOSSES

New losses occur when you acquired securities after 31.12.2008. Such losses can be offset, except for stock transactions, with all capital gains, including interest and dividends. Losses from capital gains can no longer be offset against other types of income in the future.

Losses from stock transactions can only be offset against gains from stock transactions. In addition, losses from capital assets cannot be carried back to, for example, 2008, but an unlimited carryforward to future years is possible.

As you can see, your question is by no means trivial, the situation is, as often in tax law, very complicated.

I hope my explanations have been helpful.

Best regards,

Ulrich Stiller
Tax advisor

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Dipl.BW/SB Ulrich Stiller

Dipl.BW/SB Ulrich Stiller

Leonberg, Württ

Seit ca. 46 Jahren im Steuerrecht tätig, davon seit 1981 selbständig als Steuerberater. Ich berate Arbeitnehmer, Unternehmer und Unternehmen sowie Privatpersonen. Ein Schwerpunkt meiner Tätigkeit ist die bundesweite Vertretung von Steuerpflichtigen vor den Straf-und Bußgeldstellen der Finanzämter einschl. der Steuerfahndung, wenn ein Steuerstrafverfahren eingeleitet worden ist. Desweiteren vertrete ich Steuerpflichtige im Rahmen von Rechtsbehelfsverfahren vor den Finanzämtern und führe Klageverfahren vor allen deutschen Finanzgerichten einschl. des Bundesfinanzhofesfinanzhofs zur Durchsetzung Ihrer Rechte durch.

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